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Bibbs, Martin speak out at candidates event
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Bibbs, Martin speak out at candidates event




Both candidates for House District 8 seat went to the Pitt County Home Builders Association candidates forum Tuesday night to talk about their top issues in the race.

Democrat candidate Mark Bibbs spoke first and took the opportunity to mention his opponent, Republican candidate Susan Martin, won’t have a public debate with him.

"Susan has yet to agree to a public debate with me, so this might be the best and only chance I get toward it,” Bibbs said. "But I’m not going to debate her here because she’s not going to debate me at home. So that in and of itself tells you what type of candidate we’re working with.”

The audience murmured, and Bibbs went on talking about why he disagrees with some Republican candidates who say they want to do away with the corporate income tax.

"I support tax reform – I don’t support tax increases,” Bibbs explained. "North Carolina has a $21 billion state budget. The corporate income tax makes up about $900 million of that $21 billion. So, Bank of America, Blue Cross and Blue Shield, Duke Power and every other major fortune 500 corporation in this state would pay zero income tax.”

Bibbs said that money has to be found somewhere and Republicans have proposed a new service tax.

"Let me tell you what that means,” Bibbs said. "That means in so many words it is a tax on labor. So when you go get your oil changed, right now you pay taxes on the oil and the filter. If they pass that bill, then you will pay taxes on the guy who changed the oil.”

Bibbs said it is fundamentally wrong and he is 100 percent opposed to it, and would never vote for a service tax.

"That tax unfairly hits middle-class families,” Bibbs said.

He warned the audience that it would negatively effect them, too.

Bibbs told the group that cuts the Legislature made bordered on criminal.

"It’s just wrong to eliminate 6,000 teaching jobs, up to 2,000 college professors and over 1,500 community college jobs,” Bibbs said.

Bibbs told the group that it is important that each voter gets to know the issues and do their homework. He said the most effective candidates will work on issues in a non-partisan way. He said if he agrees with a law, he will vote for that law no matter if it is sponsored by Republican or Democrat law maker.

"I want people to understand that the partisan divide in Raleigh and in Washington has to come to an end,” Bibbs said. "North Carolina has a wide variety of problems. And last time I checked, they’re not just Republican problems. They’re not just Democrat problems. They’re North Carolina problems – ours together.”

 

SUSAN MARTIN

Martin never responded in her presentation to homebuilders to the debate challenge. She did, however, say no to a private note written to her asking if she planned to debate her opponent.

Martin said she knows how important public education is. She said she was the first in her family to get a university degree.

Martin told the group she got into the race, not as a politician, but as a concerned parent.

"I have two teen-aged daughters and the reason I got into this is because I’m frightened by the direction we are going, and I don’t see the opportunities for them,” Martin said.

Martin said her platform has three areas she is talking about; jobs and the economy, education and health care.

Martin said while campaigning she ran into a third-grade teacher she knows who no longer is in the classroom, but the media center.

"She told me there are too many regulations and she just can’t teach,” Martin said. "I told her you are one of our best teachers and our best assets. We have got to change that.”

Martin said one thing she learned as an IBM employee is there are times when people would come to help, but were really in the way of progress.

"I think that is a lot of that is going on in education in Raleigh,” Martin said. "These people have not been in the classroom, they’re in the ivory tower. It looks great on the white board, but it doesn’t work in the field with the students. We need to cut that out.”

Martin said she is concerned about health care and is praying Romney is elected.

"We have got to repeal Obamacare because it is a job killer and a huge tax,” Martin said. "My husband is a physician and I am concerned these areas in eastern North Carolina and in Wilson where I live that care is not going to be accessible to us.”

Martin said there will be a lot fewer doctors and the government will take citizens’ choices away.

Martin said to focus on jobs, she supports lowering taxes, cutting spending, cutting debt, reducing regulations and embracing reform.

Martin said she has talked to homebuilders who told her they want less regulation. She said many told her that they used to know all the regulations, but there has been so much change that they no longer can function at the same level.

She left the crowd with her favorite quote from Margaret Thatcher.

"If you want something said in politics, ask a man,” Martin smiled. "If you want something done, ask a woman.”
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@ Current DWI by candidate, NOT Bibbs said...

Yea ANOTHER Democrat!! As far a lessons learned this is this persons FIRST offense. Now how many did Bibbs have?? The world wonders

Tuesday, October 09, 2012 at 10:11 AM
Current DWI by candidate, NOT Bibbs said...

At least Bibbs has learned his lesson and is not this stupid!
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Tags: NC Candidate DWI
BURLINGTON, N.C. -- A Mebane city council member who's running for the state Legislature is apologizing after she was charged with driving while impaired.
Highway Patrol troopers stopped Democrat Patty Philipps early Saturday on Interstate 40 in Burlington. Troopers say she had a .15 percent blood alcohol level. The legal limit in North Carolina is .08 percent.
Philipps is running for a state House seat against Republican candidate Steve Ross. She says she made a serious mistake, and she apologized to her family, friends and the community.
Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/10/08/2399727/candidate-for-nc-house-arrested.html#storylink=cpy

Tuesday, October 09, 2012 at 12:58 AM
@@wonder is.... said...

We have now figured out now that the person who keeps repeatedly attacking Bibbs is Billy Prickett. Shame on you Prockett for calling his wife a fool!

Tuesday, October 09, 2012 at 12:49 AM
said...

Thank you retired teacher for all the dedication you gave our children. We need to be able to attract and keep teachers like you in this county and state. I hope we don't let you and the thousands of current and retired teachers down come November.

Tuesday, October 09, 2012 at 10:20 PM
@@@@@wonder said...

State retirees pay more than 10 dollars per month on their premiums. That cost will go up, not down. Over the course of my teaching career, I literally supplied thousands of dollars out of my own pocket to by materials for my classroom. When I retired, those things were donated to the school system. Most teachers do the same because we care about kids - not our kids, but someone else's kids. Name me another profession where employees consistently pay for the suuppor of their clients to such a degree. All about me? I could've had a lot of frills in my life if I hadn't been so generous to other's kids. If I had to do it over again, I'd be just as generous.

Tuesday, October 09, 2012 at 9:46 PM
@@@@wonder said...

you are the one who is " its all about me" . is it too much to ask you to pay 10 dollars a month towards my health plan, when most people have to pay hundreds and even medicare recipients on a fixed income have to pay close to 100 dollars amonth for part b and carry a supplement if they dont want their deductibles and copays to break them.you have a state paid reitemrnt plan. most people now only have 401ks where their employer contributes and they have to contribute to their future retirement. fact/teachers got a 2 percent raise and an extra week vacation/ comp pay under the republican controlled legislature. the former ousted corrupt democratic majority had not given state employees and teachers any raises in over 4 years. . you are retired do you think you should get an extra weeks vacation. OBTW we understand you are a diehard democorat and will vote for B ibbs regardless if he had committed a murder. and he may well have if the legal system hadnt finally put a stop to his drunk driving episodes. if he gets caught one more time wont he have his car confiscated and lose it and have to pull a long time in prison for being a habitual high Bac Dwi offender? you must have been a great teacher and a shining example to our students if you endorse a habitual Dwi offender for the state general assmbly. you said you taught out of state alot. i think i understand.

Monday, October 08, 2012 at 6:57 PM @@@wonder said...

As a retiree, I did not get a "raise" from the Republican General Assembly. After raising the co-pays, deductibles, and adding on a new twist to health care benefits for teachers/retirees (the state no longer pays the full premium for a single employee or retiree, as was the case under Democrats), I essentially did not get an increase in my pension. BTW, the Republican legislature gave retirees a one percent increase and teachers got twice as much.,,doesn't cover the extra co-pays and premium cost. So please quit the line that we got an increase after five years. There's no increase. And Susan Martin will only work to make the situation worse, not better. She'll vote with her party.

Monday, October 08, 2012 at 1:57 PM Easy decision said...

Bibbs may be a likeable guy. He probably has some good ideas. He certainly deserved a second chance after making a mistake. Problem is: HE HAS SHOWN THAT HE IS NOT CAPABLE OF SERVING SOCIETY BECAUSE HE IS A MENACE TO SOCIETY. It really is that simple. He cannot be elected to represent us as he is certainly not a representative OF us.

Monday, October 08, 2012 at 1:27 PM @@wonder said...

you are proud the NCAE endorses a twice convicted drunk driver and habitual drunkard? how about if he had killed someone on one of his drunk driving escapades. if he was caught twice , you can beleive he drove drunk many times when he wasnt caught. he was measured at a .44 on one of his breathalyzer test. he should have been paased out or dead from alcohol poisoning with that reading. you make all the excuses for his " frailities" you want. there is no excuse for the in excusable. OBTW the republican controlled state general assembly that replaced the ousted 140 year corrupt democratic majority just gave teachers and state employees their first raise in 5 years and an extra week of vacation/comp time.

Monday, October 08, 2012 at 9:58 AM @Wonder if said...

Well said, I couldn’t agree more. We need to fight for our teachers and our children in our public school systems. I believe the democrats have the best plans to do that. I'm proud the NCAE made the choice to put their support behind Bibbs

Monday, October 08, 2012 at 9:38 AM @Wonder if said...

Please discuss the issues that are relevant to Ms. Martin. She speaks of her concern for education, yet Republicans in this state have actively worked to intimidate and denigrate the teaching profession. I am a retired teacher who has worked outside of North Carolina where Democrats regularly treat teachers with far more respect. I do not care to discuss Mr. Bibbs human frailties...I think your efforts to do so are nothing more than a sidebar and an effort to detract from the educational needs of NC that Ms. Martin is supposedly concerned about. Republicans are notoriously lacking in their support of education for our children...which is why Martin won't get my support. If Ms. Martin is concerned about education, she should register as a Democrat. Her stands would be more convincing.

Monday, October 08, 2012 at 9:20 PM wonder if said...

Mr Rogers and Big Bird would endorse a twice convicted drunk driver, who shows up at the county courthouse drunk, makes a fool of himself,disrespects court personel, fails another breathalyzer test ,has his prorbation revoked to active jail time, has his law licenses suspended and then allowed to keep them on conformity to parole , repeatedly violates his parole and to top it off has tax liens and five or six times is a deliquent property tax violator. of course the late taxes were the fault of his mortgage compant not paying the tax on time out of an escrow account( on 5 or 6 different occasions. the tax bill comes out in sept and you have until the 1st of jan to pay it. after it happened once or twice , if my mortagage company did that i would have a problem with it. i would quit escrowing and pay it myself. why let the morgage company use your money for a year for free anyway? would MADD and SADD endorse him. well beleive it or not the NCAE has endorsed him. surprise, surprise

Sunday, October 07, 2012 at 6:34 PM @@veteran teacher said...

As an early childhood classroom teacher, I disagree...Sesame Street and other PBS programs are very popular among our younger set. Sesame St. has been used as a model for childrens' programming internationally. Romney should never have used Big Bird in his debate speech. But at least he told the truth...he wants to cut gov't spending by cutting out specific programs, including PBS. He could've added Planned Parenthood and benefits that lgbt federal employees now get (Republicans are anti-gay people, you know). Obama has my vote.

Saturday, October 06, 2012 at 9:58 PM @ Veteran Teacher said...

Unfortunately, today's kids watch shows that are a lot different from the shows that PBS broadcasts. They are learning from Teen Mom and Honey Boo Boo, not Big Bird and Mr Rodgers.

Friday, October 05, 2012 at 8:30 AM Veteran teacher said...

If Susan Martin is interested in education, she might want to get Romney's ear. PBS programming is absolutely making a positive difference in children's learning before they enter public school. I taught kindergarten for years and some of the best students I had from extremely impoverished backgrounds watched PBS programming before coming to school. I taught children who knew the alphabet, letter sounds, and could tell me all about the characters, plot, etc. of award winning children's books they heard via PBS programming. I cannot vote Republican because they have a poor understanding of education. NC lost one in eight teachers last year - most of them due to retirement. What kind of competitive benefits is the Republican legislature offering to potential new teachers? Republicans want to cut tenure, raise teacher contributions to health insurance, raise co-pays and deductibles on health insurance, refuse to consider paid personal business leave, and so on. The Republican "No Child Left Behind" act was a costly joke...meant to intimidate teachers and schools. Martin likes charter schools..does she know that over all, charter schools are not making a hill of beans difference in student achievement? Please, if Susan Martin cares so much about education, she needs to run as a Democrat.

Friday, October 05, 2012 at 9:01 PM Just cause you are mad at said...

OBAMA....goodness gracious, take it out on him and not Susan Martin.

Thursday, October 04, 2012 at 6:30 PM excuse me but said...

Susan Martin had NO knowledge of these random flyers that are not hers personally. These are thanks to the Republican Party. They purposefully do NOT let her know what is going out. I have inside info on this so blame the proper person and NOT her. Just wanted to get that out there.

Thursday, October 04, 2012 at 6:29 PM they better be sending these flyers out enmasse in piit county said...


the people there are not as familiar with Bibbs controversial background and he was a college roomate and drinking and partying buddy of current greenville mayor Allen Thomas( no relation to the shady Wilson attorney and Wayne Gay confidant and business partner). Thomas hosted a fundraiser for Bibbs in Greenville.people in Wilson know Bibbs Background well. the republican party better make sure people in Pitt in this realigned district know all the sorted details about MR Bibbs as well. it hasnt got alot of play here.


Thursday, October 04, 2012 at 5:06 PM is it about as disgusting as the said...

flyer the corrupt ousted democrats sent out about Buck Newton on A B "show me the money" Swindells's part and with his knowledge?

Thursday, October 04, 2012 at 4:43 PM Also disgusted said...

It is disgusting that Mrs. Martin would feel the need to spend contributors money on such trash....oh wait I bet it will be from the Republican Caucasus again and she has nothing to do with it, yeah right. I'm appaulad that such garbage would be in my mailbox. I wonder why she feels the need to stoop so low? I guess she knows how weak her message has been.

Thursday, October 04, 2012 at 3:39 PM Desperate said...

She is getting desperate. Too bad she can't focus on issues that will impact the lives of voters.

Thursday, October 04, 2012 at 3:07 PM said...

I just got a new mail ad from NC republican Party. It has Bibbs mugshot with shot glasses of alcohol and car keys. It also has his Inmate # 0967405 as well. Looks bad really bad.

Thursday, October 04, 2012 at 2:49 PM Just sayin' said...

I'd take Susan Martin in a coma over Mark Bibbs even sober. I've never seen him drunk, but if he's any worse than he is when I've seen him sober, I sure hate it! Mark is one of the most arrogant men I've ever met! I'd rather have Susan represent our district than be the laughingstock of the state with Mark. There would be no respect for District 8 with him representing us.

Thursday, October 04, 2012 at 2:16 PM @ Tired said...

If Mark can not control his own life I do not want him in Raleigh making laws to run my life.

Thursday, October 04, 2012 at 9:30 AM @ said said...

in sure he is a great guy when he isnt drinking. but he has issues and demons he needs get a handle on before i would consider voting for him for anything.as an officer of the court , he must be held to higher standard than most people. this isnt an isolated youthful indescretion. it is recentand a habitual pattern of alcohol abuse and personal financial issues. if he cant control his drinking and obey the laws and handle his own finances, why in the world would we want him in Raleigh making laws for us to obey and bills for us to have to live by?

Thursday, October 04, 2012 at 10:00 PM McCrory and Martin will win said...

Dalton and Bibbs will lose. moan and groan and defend this repeated drunk driver who has put many innocent peoples lives in danger many times and but for the grace of god didnt kill someone. you can not defend the indefensible. wonder if MADD and SADD support him? end of story.

Thursday, October 04, 2012 at 9:54 PM Said said...

I could not disagree with your comment more. Mark is a good man committed to helping people, he always has been. He is a real person who has had real struggles in his life. Despite those hardships he works hard everyday and takes care of those he cares about (family and friends). As human beings we all make mistakes, but we don't give up; we wake up the next day and work harder to be better. I support him and admire his strength and courage to fight for what he believes in!

Wednesday, October 03, 2012 at 8:07 PM said...

If a man can't abide by the law, how can you give him the authority to write it. Bibbs is a drunk- was and is. He has no respect for those that serve and protect. He may be articulate and know all the right words to say (they teach that in law school), but his character is inherently flawed. His ethics are shallow and he has done nothing to deserve our vote.

Wednesday, October 03, 2012 at 6:08 PM Finally, someone else gets it! said...

Here, here! Ditto to the last comment about paying attention to the issue and doing your research on the candidates and their stand on the real issues and the candidates qualifications!

Wednesday, October 03, 2012 at 3:32 PM said...

Sorry folks but it seems to me Susan’s ship is starting to sink with more and more voters and a lot of you are contributing to that with your comments. It is true a small majority of voters may fall into your redirecting tactics trying to pull voters away from the actual issues, but most voters that I know will go and actually research issues, both candidates and what their actual qualifications are to perform the job. Some of you are starting to sound as repetitive as Susan does with your comments about Mark. Can we talk about where Susan and Mark stand on the real issues that matter to most voters and how they plan to get those things done in Raleigh? No, that's right we can't discuss that here (you know what the election is actually about) because you can't back up your candidates plans or issues when she doesn't have a solid plan and doesn’t know the issues in depth at all. So please carry on and continue to try and deflect for your candidate with personal attacks on Mark but more and more of us aren’t falling for it and are seeing who both of these candidates really are. Like the man below me said, Susan’s a nice lady but is not qualified or equipped to handle this job in his opinion or mine. Oh, and just so the rest of you all know your candidate Mrs. Martin also paid her taxes late in 2009. Maybe some of you should get off the comment section here and go do some research on your candidate before you start trying to call out Mark. But really who cares, I don’t care if Mark and Susan pay every bill they owe late, (I have personally paid many bills late) but I do care about the actual issues and who’s going to get the job done in Raleigh.

Wednesday, October 03, 2012 at 2:03 PM Tired of this mees about Bibbs said...

I'm tired of reading all the comments by the same people, over and over, who comment on Bibbs and his past DWI matters. This election is about who can best do the job at the legislature, and who can best represent this area with passion and the ability to build consensus, reach across party lines and get things done for our area and our state. When you comment on Mark Bibbs, attack him by disagreeing with him on issues, leave that other mess out. He will make a great member of the State House once elected in November. He's a far superior candidate to Susan Martin. To all of you who will still make negative comments about him, what will you have to say after he wins?
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Wednesday, October 03, 2012 at 12:18 PM PirateFan said...

"As a Democrat, I am embarrassed by Mr. Bibbs. I will vote for integrity, character, moral standards, and class...Mrs. Martin"......... I couldn't have said it ANY better! I concur.

Wednesday, October 03, 2012 at 10:55 AM Democrat said...

As a Democrat, I am embarrassed by Mr. Bibbs. I will vote for integrity, character, moral standards, and class...Mrs. Martin

Wednesday, October 03, 2012 at 10:17 AM what a waste of 100k of your personal money Bibbs. said...

nobody wants a repeated drunk driver to represent them in raleigh.

Wednesday, October 03, 2012 at 10:02 AM Bibbs is a bully said...

he is an arrogant boozing slick politician who has already shown on many occaisions he has no respectfor the law, his profession , no diplomacy skills and gets mad if everything doesnt go his way. TAKE YOUR BALL AND GO HOME MR BIBBS

Wednesday, October 03, 2012 at 10:00 AM said...

Bibbs = drunk dog catcher

Wednesday, October 03, 2012 at 9:59 AM said...

Did anyone record this? I like to see a video of it. It sounds like Susan said the exact same thing verbatim that she said in the video for the General Assembly Forum on August 30th. Even I have memorized her answers and could recite them just as well as she is doing OVER and OVER again. With the exception of asking the audience to applaud for her this time, she is now quoting Margret Thatcher. Does she have any relative ideas or answers to questions that are her own that she's not spoon fed?

Wednesday, October 03, 2012 at 9:55 AM You go Bibbs! said...


Now that's the Mark Bibbs I've seen in action! I've been waiting this whole campaign season to see the skilled man I've watched in the courtroom. He walked into a room dominated by Republican home builders and contractors, and took the fight to Susan and the Republican controlled legislature. If I were Susan, I would be scared to have a debate with him too! She has nothing to gain and all to lose. We all know she's not up to speed on issues, that she has no depth or substance in her issues. She just repeats what the Republican line is and what they tell her to say, just like a parrott. No details, no specifics. If you ask her, like I did this summer at her backyard fundraiser on Hermitage Drive here in town. I asked her some questions, pressed her on an issue, she told me " thanks for coming" and walked away without answering. I told her that I was an unaffiliated voter, I still am. I was invited to her event, so I paid my money and went, because I wanted to hear what she had to say. Nothing. Nice lady, no substance. Does not need to be in this campaign. She's way out of her league and comfort zone. I agree with what Bibbs had to say, "if she won't debate me here, how can she expect to debate in the state House in Raleigh?" Well she can't just walk off from people at the legislature, like she did from me at the Shackleford's backyard event. I'm voting for the candidate who knows issues and knows what he's talking about. Not the prom queen parrott.

Wednesday, October 03, 2012 at 9:19 AM ... said...

No mention of Martin's attack mailers? Another fine job of delving deep into what is really going on by the WDT.

Wednesday, October 03, 2012 at 8:21 AM Class Act said...

Susan Martin has class, high standards and integrity. She's genuinely concerned for our future it's not about power. Keep up the good work Susan!

Wednesday, October 03, 2012 at 7:15 AM Go get her Bibbs! She's chicken said...

Now that's the Mark Bibbs I've seen in action! I've been waiting this whole campaign season to see the skilled man I've watched in the courtroom. He walked into a room dominated by Republican home builders and contractors, and took the fight to Susan and the Republican controlled legislature. If I were Susan, I would be scared to have a debate with him too! She has nothing to gain and all to lose. We all know she's not up to speed on issues, that she has no depth or substance in her issues. She just repeats what the Republican line is and what they tell her to say, just like a parrott. No details, no specifics. If you ask her, like I did this summer at her backyard fundraiser on Hermitage Drive here in town. I asked her some questions, pressed her on an issue, she told me " thanks for coming" and walked away without answering. I told her that I was an unaffiliated voter, I still am. I was invited to her event, so I paid my money and went, because I wanted to hear what she had to say. Nothing. Nice lady, no substance. Does not need to be in this campaign. She's way out of her league and comfort zone. I agree with what Bibbs had to say, "if she won't debate me here, how can she expect to debate in the state House in Raleigh?" Well she can't just walk off from people at the legislature, like she did from me at the Shackleford's backyard event. I'm voting for the candidate who knows issues and knows what he's talking about. Not the prom queen parrott.

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