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Who won the vice presidential debate?
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Who won the vice presidential debate?
Biden, Ryan face off for voters




An aggressive Joe Biden defended President Barack Obama’s economic record and attacked Paul Ryan’s budget proposals in the 2012 campaign’s first and only vice presidential debate Thursday night.

Wilson County’s Democratic and Republican leaders offered opposite takes on the debate’s outcome, but both agreed that the candidates stood in sharp contrast.

"I think undecided voters reacted better to Biden tonight, and I think that’s because he’s real,” Democratic Party Chairman Asa Gregory said. "He showed that he’s a real person, a regular person just like them.”

GOP Chairman Gary Proffitt said Ryan’s debate performance would likely help Republican nominee Mitt Romney win the presidency.

"The house is sold,” Proffitt said. "Joe Biden offered the White House for sale, and Congressman Ryan has bought it. It’s sold.”

Pundits said Biden was on the offensive from the outset of Thursday’s debate, held in Danville, Ky. He and Ryan traded jabs over health care reform, tax policy, job creation and national defense.

Both candidates gave opponents opportunities to analyze their body language. Gregory said smirking during Biden’s remarks made Ryan look disingenuous.

"As the other one was talking, both of them had a quirk about them,” he said. "Biden sort of chuckled a lot and I noticed Ryan had a smirk.”

Proffitt said Biden’s laughter made light of the severity of America’s challenges.

"Joe Biden is a laughing joke,” he said. "I’m going to try to get him a job on ‘Saturday Night Live.’”

Gregory said Biden was well-prepared for the debate and gave thoughtful answers to moderator Martha Raddatz’s questions.

"He was prepared to answer anything that Ryan brought up that was slightly off the truth,” Gregory said.

Wilson County’s top Democrat thought Biden also scored points with middle-class voters on taxation and budget issues.

"Biden is the foreign policy guy, Ryan is the budget guy,” Gregory said. "Even on the budget, I feel like Biden had the upper hand.”

Proffitt said expectations for Ryan were high after Mitt Romney scored what many commentators called a decisive victory in his first presidential debate with Barack Obama.

"Ryan is probably going to have his work cut out for him to represent Romney like Romney spoke the first time,” Proffitt said before the debate.

Proffitt said Ryan’s addition to the Romney ticket energized conservatives locally and nationally.

"The morning after Ryan was added to the ticket, headquarters became busy, and we’ve been busy since,” he said.

Biden, 69, represented Delaware in the U.S. Senate for 36 years before becoming vice president in 2008. A native of Scranton, Pa., he ran unsuccessfully for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1988.

Ryan, 42, represents Wisconsin’s 1st congressional district and is chairman of the House Budget Committee. A darling of the tea party movement, the Janesville, Wis. native has submitted federal budget proposals that would slash spending and reduce corporate taxes in hopes of creating more jobs.

corey@wilsontimes.com | 265-7821
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Just wondering said...

@Admin....Will there be an article on last night’s debate?

Wednesday, October 17, 2012 at 9:05 AM
Debate said...

The VP debate was entertaining, which in the end, is all we can hope for in a VP debate.

Tuesday, October 16, 2012 at 9:34 AM
@independent voter said...

The debates are not an American Idol or reality program, where performance determines a "winner". I really don't care about performance, oratory skills, etc, in a debate. As to substance, I know from experience that Medicare is far better than any Republican insurance voucher program (of note: insurance companies are dropping long-term care policies because they're too costly....whereas Medicare's hospice program gave my progressively worsening father a certified nursing assistant (CNA) every day for 15 months. Yep...every day, including holidays, someone came to bathe him, provide oral care, shampoo his hair, diaper him, shave him, etc. A nurse came once a week and stayed at least an hour checking on him and talking with the family. A nurse & doctor were on call 24 hours each and every day. A chaplain came periodically; a social worker came as well. Two volunteers came weekly to provide time for family caregivers to get out. There is not one health insurance company that would give dying seniors this level of care - not one. Nor will there ever be, as offering these benefits would put them out of business. Obama is not cutting Medicare benefits - he is cutting waste. I really don't care about who won the debates. Medicare wins for seniors and I'm in that category. The Romney team might seem to win debates, but their willingness to replace Medicare with vouchers is unbelieveably offensive.

Tuesday, October 16, 2012 at 10:43 PM
independent voter said...

Ryan won on style , substance and clarifying his and Romneys psition. Biden won on rudeness, arrogance and smugness. most media outlets except MSNBC scored it for Ryan.

Monday, October 15, 2012 at 8:34 AM
BIBLE N GUNS said...

Seriously, I am like you why would parents want to send there kids to a better school to get away from gangs, drugs, and hoodrats. I know they make the schools diverse and deadly. I prefer that for my kids. How else will they get skreet cred, no what i sayn...

Sunday, October 14, 2012 at 8:21 AM
country said...

Seriously, by your comment you no doubt are a unionized teacher with nothing to do but grade post, focus your energy on our uneducated children. These over educated leaders of our country need to find there coomon sense and use it. Teach dat.

Sunday, October 14, 2012 at 8:05 AM Seriously... said...

It's impossible to take any of these comments seriously because almost every post uses improper grammar and syntax. The Republican plan to continue to cut education spending and create voucher plans so rich kids can escape poor kids in the public schools seems to be alive and well in eastern NC. THERE is a difference between their, there, and they're. How can anyone take your comments and opinions seriously?

Saturday, October 13, 2012 at 11:48 AM 1973? said...

Biden has been in government since 1973! I think he's lived off the government teat long enough, don't you? Time to put him out to pasture!

Saturday, October 13, 2012 at 11:42 AM country said...

Democrats should be ashamed to use a angry white man for there mouthpiece. Thought that was there enemy.

Friday, October 12, 2012 at 8:14 PM enough is enough said...

Biden is a complete idiot, hes way to old and angry, since they have been in office every thing has gotten worse due to the politics of give to lazy and take from the producers, water does not go up hill, cut taxes and let business hire and prosper. the taxes will come to pay for the havenots.

Friday, October 12, 2012 at 7:58 PM Romney Ryan said...

Biden is an idiot and he works under a bigger one, they need to go along with there socialism



Friday, October 12, 2012 at 7:51 PM Seriously??? said...

If you think biden was laughing because he thought the issues were funny you must be as big of an idiot as Romney/Ryan... he was laughing at the lies the republicans tell. Biden won hands down!

Friday, October 12, 2012 at 6:44 PM Funeral66 said...

The Vice President won the debate without question! Congressmen Ryan would not give direct answers even when asked.

Friday, October 12, 2012 at 6:35 PM Base it on content. said...

Joe pinned Ryan in a corner on the stimulus pakage that Ryan says he was agianst then turned around and applied for stimulus money for wisconsin not once but twice. Also on Iran he pinned Ryan again asking what more could this administration be doing now short of bombing Teran and starting another war to halt them. Biden won accept it. Its a debate if your oppent is lying dont let him use up your time to spread a lie its a dog eat dog world in politics. I concede that Romney beat Obama in the first debate.

Friday, October 12, 2012 at 3:58 PM didn't think it was possible said...

but Ryan's a worse veep candidate than Palin.

Friday, October 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM Thankful said...

I for one am thankful that we have such a classy,intelligent,thoughtful gentleman in our Congress as Paul Ryan, would that we had more like him. We have enough JB's already!

Friday, October 12, 2012 at 1:32 PM Dub Him said...

I say, dub him Joe (THE HYENA) Biden! The joke is (him). He who laughs last, laughs best! The (JOKER) president couldn't have picked a better (CLOWN) as his VP.

Friday, October 12, 2012 at 1:27 PM No contest said...

I think Biden should have been given a blood test to see what drug he was on at the beginning of the debate. He sure seemed a little too much on edge at the beginning. Whatever it was, it must have worn off by the end of the debate when he began to stammer and repeatedly say, "Uh," and "Om." His laughing throughout the entire debate seemed outrageous and disrespectful. He was trying much too hard to make up for Obama's catatonic performance in his first debate. What can you expect Gregory to say, since he is a Kool-Aid-drinking, straight-ticket-voting Democrat to the core? Paul Ryan was much more respectful, and his comments were intelligent and straightforward. Anyone who accuses Ryan of not telling the truth needs to research the Libyan attack and the outright lies told by the Obama administration!

Friday, October 12, 2012 at 12:44 PM TheHotCorner said...

Biden came across as very smug, and arrogant. He interrupted Ryan every chance he got, and chuckled, laughed, and grimaced his way thru the whole debate. He's a poor excuse for a vice-president. Ryan was very professional thru-out the dbate and appeared much more presidential than Biden.

Friday, October 12, 2012 at 9:00 AM @ Biden won hands down said...

you must have only viewed debate results and polls on the OBama network, MSNBC. nearly everyone else had Ryan winning by a narrow margin. Biden won on arrogance and rudeness and laughing like an idiot ,at every comment he didnt like from Ryan , which was almost all of them. most viewers found that a big turn off and his lack of seriousness about such important issues that affect their daily lives.

Friday, October 12, 2012 at 7:45 AM Biden lied said...

about the Oblamer administration knowing about the impending risk of the Libya attack and the loss of four lives including our ambassador. they lied about request for beefed up marine embassy security. they lied about it being a terrorist attack , blaming it on the anti muslim u-tube video. and to top it off they have emabssy marine gurds in high risk , hostile areas carrying around unloaded weapons. what a bunch of inept loons.

Friday, October 12, 2012 at 7:40 AM said...

Biden won, hands down, no question about it. Ryan avoided answering several questions and changed the subject. Obama/Biden 2012

Friday, October 12, 2012 at 7:27 AM Democrat for GOP said...

I thought Joe looked like a joke. You couldn't take his serious because he thought everything was funny. He also said that the were not asked for more protection in Lybia. Not what has been testified to in congress...But maybe Joe didn't know because he has been practicing his smirking and laugh all week. He said he means what he says, like the middle class has been buried for the last 4 years....by who Joe?

Friday, October 12, 2012 at 1:00 AM
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